I love this game, and like a lot of others, I also loved Stop the Darkness. One of the aspects I haven't seen mentioned, however, is the area journal. For me, the game is about filling the journal, to the point that I reset every time I play to fill out out again. That's what I'm feeling is missing from this game, and I would love it if there was some way to track what areas I've found and how many are undiscovered, like in Stop the Darkness. Regardless, keep working on the awesome games!
i dont see a reset option. when you clear map it refunds your money and i want to start from begining. ill just clear cookies for now. it wont let you play without cookies because of game saving but i dont want it to save.
i love stop the darkness. i played 4 hours yesterday doing speed runs. as another comment said, the darkness is a necessary time constraint and challenge. i dont see whats keeping this game from having a similar play style; challenge runs.
IDK if you are still updating this, and I want you to know that I LOVE it, but it would be amazing if there were a way to keep track of how many of each type of tile you have at any given time
This is such a wonderful game - there's incredible depth in exploring all the possible interactions between adjacent tiles.
If I could suggest a feature request, would it be possible to add some kind of "heat map" overlay mode, showing which tiles have the highest/lowest production?
Loving this! It's such a chilled-out, zen experience. Try stuff, clear, try other stuff, etc. Very satisfying and reminiscent of "Stop the Darkness" which I adore.
The creative reformulation you achieve with the shared conceptual framework between your several games is seriously amazing!
I put hour after hour (after hour) into The Final Earth and Stop the Darkness back on Kongregate; I was again thrilled with the second FE. I knew this latest game had to be yours before I even recognized your name - and once again, a playful and engrossing experience unfolds from that signature aesthetic of yours :)
Thanks for bringing yet another truly original game to the table.
Very fun game. Love it. I don't manage to earn more than 605K per minute on 4 by 4 squares map. Or only a few more everyday. Does someone has a clue on big earnings motifs ?
Awesome game! Thanks to those building the wiki as well.
Feature requests/suggestions. I am betting many/most of these are too complicated to implement, and obv you have no obligation to do anything more with the game that is pretty simple and already fantastic, but just putting them out there as ideas. 1. Manual zoom. I am zooming via the trackpad, and Ctrl+Scroll doesn't give very good control. I also have no horizontal scroll which is super annoying if I want be zoomed in. 2. Related to the above: a minimap. For telling me how much of the map I am not currently showing, as I struggle with zoom. Being able to drag around on a minimap would also fix the problem of (trackpads not giving) horizontal zoom. 3. Being able to save maps. Sometimes I want to experiment, and this would help. I like the previously made suggestion of a sandbox; but having saved maps might be easier to implement than would a sandbox, since the best map (and the null map) is already saved and available to restore and this would just be the same but with additional slots. But, restoring the best map, and clearing, are super useful to have, thank you for those!! 4. Being able to store "motifs" and use them like stamps. E.g., save some 3x3 or 5x5 square set of tiles, and then being able to use that like a "stamp" to make repeated copies of it. This would probably be pretty hard, but super useful. 5. Plots. I would love to have some visualizations over dimensions of {map cost, income, # of reduce tile cost upgrades, number of tiles used}. Having plots over time is a common thing I see in resource-management games, but I don't think that is super useful in a game where the map can be easily cleared. Or, maybe raw data downloads so we can do our own summaries and make our own plots :).
All this needs now is a zoom function. Would love to be able to zoom out and see my entire creation in its full glory. Also, anyone figured out the final village type?
I've unlocked everything so far aside from the one next to port city, and loving the different combos on the wiki. Gonna keep upping my production with more factory megalopolises, and see just what this last village type is.
This prototype is looking good so far, with some tiles that you can unlock by being creative (such as surrounding one village with four village right next to it). Unrelated, but I want you to add modding support to Stop The Darkness. If you can be more ambitious, maybe you can expand it into a Steam release like you have done with The Final Earth 2.
I wish there was a way to see all the upgraded buildings you've found so far. It would also be helpful if you could drag around and copy and paste large groups of tiles, and drag a tile to make lots of copies of it.
Really enjoying this! Been playing for a few days and it's pretty fun to try to figure out how to unlock new tiles and try different builds. So far the only downside is that navigation is a little clunky on Mac. Love it though and look forward to any other projects you work on!
It would be nice to have save import/export. Great game though, really great one. I also started a Fandom Wiki for it to have a library of lite combinations and good builds. Guess it will come in handy since there is already one for The Final Earth 2.
I am not sure how fullscreen works but some games have it and some don't. But it would be really nice if there was a full-screen button on the web version. Just quality of life because when you get the expand map feature you would have to be able to scroll and every time I do that it requires me to also screen the whole game.
BEEN ON DA WORLDSHAPA GRIND FOR 3 DAYS NOW LET ME TELL YOU DIS SHIT MAKES ME FEEL SO GLAD I'LL COME BACK TO IT AND ADD A COPLA FLOWARS DEN A COPLE WATER AND THEN I'LL AD ANOTHER DESERT (I LOVE DA DESERT EVEN IF IT BE NERFED) THEN SOME ROCKS AND I'LL COME BACK THE NEXT TIME LIKE YESSSSSS MY POWER GROWS AND I CAN NOW MAKE BIGGER WORLD. I HAVE NO CLUE HOW TO UNLOCK THE COOLER STUFF LIKE SHROOMS I'M STUCK ON WATER AN PORTS BUT THAT'S OK I'M NOT IN A RUSH I JUST LOVA THIS GAME. BY THE WAY WHEN I EXPAND THE MAP IS IT ONLY VERTICAL OR DOES IT ALSO GIVE A HORIZONTAL INCREASE I CAN'T SEEM TO MAKE WORK? LOVE HOWEVER MADE THIS
Hey, happy you like it! You unlock new tiles by increasing your production/minute. The first time you expand the map it's vertical, the second time will give you some extra horizontal space too.
I'd suggest little sandbox area: cannot gain income from it (although show it's value), but free tiles placement (at least within what's already unlocked).
Hi, you expanded the map twice in total right? Then this is totally normal, you got a new square in the top right and the next expansion will unlock this undiscovered area too!
I seem to lose my progress constantly. Two days in a row now, I've shut down my computer and when I booted it back up the next day, I was back at square one.
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Looks like I had cookies from hwcdn.net blocked. That's rather strange since I don't recall having any similar issues in the past on games hosted on Itch. Good to know that hwcdn is used for hosting though.
It's really nice to see how many mechanics this game has; with the unlock of mushrooms it becomes extremely difficult to optimize (even if I'm still just doing oasis spam, now with some glass witches villages added).
I'd love to make use of the City but it produces way too little to ever be worth it; perhaps it should give a production% boost or something?
I love the design of the game and is looking forward for more contents! I do not know how people optimize using only desert, but for me the charm is the rock-mystical conbination (later with rock ports and island) and I find it so interesting that the game, unexpectedly, changes so much with every unlock and every minute after you get more points!
Great game, love the aspects and style of Stop the Darkness, while being unique from it. It has great intervals where you can take well timed breaks, tons of unique combinations of the different tiles and good pacing. Although even after the desert nerf deserts still seem significantly better than other tiles as you begin to end the late-game and end game. I especially love the variety that comes with the final unlocks of water and mushrooms.
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I love this game, and like a lot of others, I also loved Stop the Darkness. One of the aspects I haven't seen mentioned, however, is the area journal. For me, the game is about filling the journal, to the point that I reset every time I play to fill out out again. That's what I'm feeling is missing from this game, and I would love it if there was some way to track what areas I've found and how many are undiscovered, like in Stop the Darkness. Regardless, keep working on the awesome games!
i dont see a reset option. when you clear map it refunds your money and i want to start from begining. ill just clear cookies for now. it wont let you play without cookies because of game saving but i dont want it to save.
i love stop the darkness. i played 4 hours yesterday doing speed runs. as another comment said, the darkness is a necessary time constraint and challenge. i dont see whats keeping this game from having a similar play style; challenge runs.
i still come back to this, one of my favorite idle games.
leaving a comment so I can easily come back to this game again. Excited for the steam release
what's the difference between a witches and wizard's port?? i don't know what exactly makes either one
you can read the difference if you hover over them
The game wont start to load.
How to fix?
Need an export to string/import from string function.
Relying on cookies feels very unsafe for the amount of time spent on this.
Can confirm; lost my save
Same, lost mine today. :(
IDK if you are still updating this, and I want you to know that I LOVE it, but it would be amazing if there were a way to keep track of how many of each type of tile you have at any given time
This is one of the most compelling idle games I have seen in a while. I love this.
Suggestion, add deep sea tiles, kelp sea tiles, coral reef tiles?
When combining with one another, it produces shoal fish tile, coral island tile, whale tile, mermaid tile, Deep Ones tile?
This is such a wonderful game - there's incredible depth in exploring all the possible interactions between adjacent tiles.
If I could suggest a feature request, would it be possible to add some kind of "heat map" overlay mode, showing which tiles have the highest/lowest production?
Is the King/Growth build the best there is right now for energy gain? Or is there a better build I'm missing out on?
Loving this! It's such a chilled-out, zen experience. Try stuff, clear, try other stuff, etc. Very satisfying and reminiscent of "Stop the Darkness" which I adore.
> "Stop the Darkness"
Haven't heard that name in a long while :)
The creative reformulation you achieve with the shared conceptual framework between your several games is seriously amazing!
I put hour after hour (after hour) into The Final Earth and Stop the Darkness back on Kongregate; I was again thrilled with the second FE. I knew this latest game had to be yours before I even recognized your name - and once again, a playful and engrossing experience unfolds from that signature aesthetic of yours :)
Thanks for bringing yet another truly original game to the table.
Very fun game. Love it. I don't manage to earn more than 605K per minute on 4 by 4 squares map. Or only a few more everyday. Does someone has a clue on big earnings motifs ?
Thanks for the fun game.
I hope you will continue to develop it.
I wish you would stop deselecting selected items when you click on them again, and make it possible to select "blank" instead.
Awesome game! Thanks to those building the wiki as well.
Feature requests/suggestions. I am betting many/most of these are too complicated to implement, and obv you have no obligation to do anything more with the game that is pretty simple and already fantastic, but just putting them out there as ideas.
1. Manual zoom. I am zooming via the trackpad, and Ctrl+Scroll doesn't give very good control. I also have no horizontal scroll which is super annoying if I want be zoomed in.
2. Related to the above: a minimap. For telling me how much of the map I am not currently showing, as I struggle with zoom. Being able to drag around on a minimap would also fix the problem of (trackpads not giving) horizontal zoom.
3. Being able to save maps. Sometimes I want to experiment, and this would help. I like the previously made suggestion of a sandbox; but having saved maps might be easier to implement than would a sandbox, since the best map (and the null map) is already saved and available to restore and this would just be the same but with additional slots. But, restoring the best map, and clearing, are super useful to have, thank you for those!!
4. Being able to store "motifs" and use them like stamps. E.g., save some 3x3 or 5x5 square set of tiles, and then being able to use that like a "stamp" to make repeated copies of it. This would probably be pretty hard, but super useful.
5. Plots. I would love to have some visualizations over dimensions of {map cost, income, # of reduce tile cost upgrades, number of tiles used}. Having plots over time is a common thing I see in resource-management games, but I don't think that is super useful in a game where the map can be easily cleared. Or, maybe raw data downloads so we can do our own summaries and make our own plots :).
All this needs now is a zoom function. Would love to be able to zoom out and see my entire creation in its full glory. Also, anyone figured out the final village type?
Hey, the last village is a tower that initially gives 1000 per minute, I'm going to discover how to take advantage of it
now it gives me 2400, maybe I was wrong
How the heck does one get that tower? I'd love to see it.
Nvm, need 15k production. Just got it. Now to wait on future updates.
the same adjacency rules but on a hex grid would be quite interesting
I've unlocked everything so far aside from the one next to port city, and loving the different combos on the wiki. Gonna keep upping my production with more factory megalopolises, and see just what this last village type is.
Clear Map ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ Finally!!!
And the tower addition is great. Love the game
This prototype is looking good so far, with some tiles that you can unlock by being creative (such as surrounding one village with four village right next to it). Unrelated, but I want you to add modding support to Stop The Darkness. If you can be more ambitious, maybe you can expand it into a Steam release like you have done with The Final Earth 2.
I wish there was a way to see all the upgraded buildings you've found so far. It would also be helpful if you could drag around and copy and paste large groups of tiles, and drag a tile to make lots of copies of it.
Really enjoying this! Been playing for a few days and it's pretty fun to try to figure out how to unlock new tiles and try different builds. So far the only downside is that navigation is a little clunky on Mac. Love it though and look forward to any other projects you work on!
It would be nice to have save import/export. Great game though, really great one. I also started a Fandom Wiki for it to have a library of lite combinations and good builds. Guess it will come in handy since there is already one for The Final Earth 2.
https://florian-van-striens-worldshaper.fandom.com/wiki/Florian_van_Strien%27s_W...
That was exactly what I was thinking of!
Reminds me of Stop the Darkness, that's a good game.
Suggestion: Add food as a second resource for the game? Like Wheat farm, Rice fields, Forager hut, Windmills?
And special tiles like marshlands, beaches and Dragon's Nest ( To collect Dragon egg)?
Special Buildings like, Crocodile farm, Fungus Crocodile Farm, Coconut farm, Fungus Coconut farm, Fishing Village, Seaside City and etc?
Well, yeah he also made stop the darkness and it uses the same sprites; I love the food idea!
I am not sure how fullscreen works but some games have it and some don't. But it would be really nice if there was a full-screen button on the web version. Just quality of life because when you get the expand map feature you would have to be able to scroll and every time I do that it requires me to also screen the whole game.
You can left-click and drag to move around the map
I UNLOCKED DA MUSHROOM YEAAAAAAA
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UNDERCASE CUCK DOESN'T UNDERSTAND
BEEN ON DA WORLDSHAPA GRIND FOR 3 DAYS NOW LET ME TELL YOU DIS SHIT MAKES ME FEEL SO GLAD I'LL COME BACK TO IT AND ADD A COPLA FLOWARS DEN A COPLE WATER AND THEN I'LL AD ANOTHER DESERT (I LOVE DA DESERT EVEN IF IT BE NERFED) THEN SOME ROCKS AND I'LL COME BACK THE NEXT TIME LIKE YESSSSSS MY POWER GROWS AND I CAN NOW MAKE BIGGER WORLD. I HAVE NO CLUE HOW TO UNLOCK THE COOLER STUFF LIKE SHROOMS I'M STUCK ON WATER AN PORTS BUT THAT'S OK I'M NOT IN A RUSH I JUST LOVA THIS GAME. BY THE WAY WHEN I EXPAND THE MAP IS IT ONLY VERTICAL OR DOES IT ALSO GIVE A HORIZONTAL INCREASE I CAN'T SEEM TO MAKE WORK? LOVE HOWEVER MADE THIS
Hey, happy you like it! You unlock new tiles by increasing your production/minute. The first time you expand the map it's vertical, the second time will give you some extra horizontal space too.
A zoom function would be really nice
HELL YEAAAAAA
I'd suggest little sandbox area: cannot gain income from it (although show it's value), but free tiles placement (at least within what's already unlocked).
Hi, you expanded the map twice in total right? Then this is totally normal, you got a new square in the top right and the next expansion will unlock this undiscovered area too!
Now I have 3 upgrades and full square, at second upgrade I have map like this:
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got it, thanks. i didn't try scrolling left or right
I seem to lose my progress constantly. Two days in a row now, I've shut down my computer and when I booted it back up the next day, I was back at square one.
Hey, sorry to hear that! Please make sure your browser accepts third party cookies and doesn't delete cookies on close. Third party cookies are required as itch.io uses a separate website to host the games in for safety reasons. I don't use these for tracking you at all, just for saving your game (local storage to be precise, but this normally uses the same setting in your browser). You may also be able to just add an exception for itch.io and hwcdn.net (the site itch.io uses for hosting).
Here are the right settings in Firefox and Chrome:
Looks like I had cookies from hwcdn.net blocked. That's rather strange since I don't recall having any similar issues in the past on games hosted on Itch. Good to know that hwcdn is used for hosting though.
the app keeps going completely black when I take the curser outside the "field area". :'(
Can't play it.
Thanks very much for reporting this! This has now been resolved.
It's really nice to see how many mechanics this game has; with the unlock of mushrooms it becomes extremely difficult to optimize (even if I'm still just doing oasis spam, now with some glass witches villages added).
I'd love to make use of the City but it produces way too little to ever be worth it; perhaps it should give a production% boost or something?
try putting rocks around your city
I love the design of the game and is looking forward for more contents! I do not know how people optimize using only desert, but for me the charm is the rock-mystical conbination (later with rock ports and island) and I find it so interesting that the game, unexpectedly, changes so much with every unlock and every minute after you get more points!
Great game, love the aspects and style of Stop the Darkness, while being unique from it. It has great intervals where you can take well timed breaks, tons of unique combinations of the different tiles and good pacing. Although even after the desert nerf deserts still seem significantly better than other tiles as you begin to end the late-game and end game. I especially love the variety that comes with the final unlocks of water and mushrooms.